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We wish to want all of our listeners and readers a Glad Thanksgiving! These days, we needed to concentrate on gratitude and likewise pay attention from all of you about issues you might be thankful for. We concentrate to a handful of speakpipes and talk about the issues that you’re feeling this vacation. We even have two nice visitors at the podcast nowadays. First, we pay attention from Andrew over at studentloanadvice.com. He’s going to be becoming a member of us as soon as a month for a couple of months to lend a hand stay everybody within the find out about what’s going on with federal pupil mortgage forgiveness. Issues are replacing continuously at this time, and Andrew will do his easiest to ensure we all know what to anticipate. Later within the episode, we will be able to pay attention from considered one of our WCICON23 keynote audio system, Dr. Stacy Taniguchi. He’s going to can help you know a little bit about himself and the superior issues he’s going to be speaking about on the convention.

We requested you to ship in Discuss Pipes nowadays about gratitude. These days is Thanksgiving and what higher time to discuss gratitude than Thanksgiving? It rings a bell in my memory of a Will Arnett quote. He mentioned, “I’m glad as a result of I am thankful. I select to be thankful. That gratitude lets in me to be at liberty.” Is not that what all of us need? We are all in quest of happiness. And one of the most keys to this is gratitude. An angle of gratitude makes you happier. Your monetary state of affairs hasn’t modified. Your paintings state of affairs hasn’t modified. Your relationships have not modified. All this modified as you might be extra thankful, and but you might be extra glad. That is why Doris Day mentioned, “Gratitude is riches and criticism is poverty.”

Now, Thanksgiving isn’t the arena’s maximum best vacation. It has some issues. After we have been in grade faculty, we were given this Thanksgiving tale that the Pilgrims and the Indians have been all very a lot buddy-buddy pals. That isn’t essentially the case. A part of the explanation they might even land there in Plymouth Rock was once as a result of a flu epidemic had long gone thru that Local American group within the prior couple of years and mainly killed everyone. The true historical past of the vacations could also be now not that fab. It is true. There are a large number of horrible issues that have been performed all through this 400-year warfare that the Eu settlers had with Local American citizens as they moved east to west around the continent. There are some very good books that speak about the whole lot that took place. The historical past itself is attention-grabbing and is aware of an excessive amount of tragedy. I will perceive why there are a large number of folks that do not in reality like celebrating this vacation, however let’s divorce it from its historical past and acknowledge an enormous good thing about having gratitude, of celebrating gratitude at some point a 12 months. It is nonetheless profitable to rejoice gratitude.

Let’s take a concentrate to what our first listener shared about what they’re thankful for.

Amen. That could be a good thing to be thankful for. You realize what I am thankful for? I had a affected person who was once extraordinarily unwell, got here in from what necessarily was once a hoarder space, lined in stool, and endured to have bowel actions all through her ER keep. Sorry for the ones of you who are not doctors. It is more or less gross. The entire room smells of melena—which in the event you’ve smelled it, you realize what that smells like. By the point we have been performed, there was once stool all over the place on this room. It is all over the place the gurney. It is all over the place the ground. It is all over the place. I am thankful for the one who went in to wash that up. That was once anyone’s activity to move in and blank up that room once we have been performed taking good care of that affected person. They’re very a lot part of our staff in our ER as our housework group of workers, and I am tremendous thankful for them.

We are grateful that you are thankful for the group of workers right here. I’m for sure thankful for the group of workers right here. I do not understand how continuously I have mentioned this at the podcast, however in 2019, I used to be beautiful darn burned out on The White Coat Investor. A large number of you were not even taking note of this podcast again then. Hadn’t even heard of The White Coat Investor in 2019. However I used to be more or less performed. And Katie and I, we had a large determination of whether or not we have been going to make the corporate larger and get much more lend a hand from folks serving to us stay it going, or whether or not we have been going to make it smaller and do exactly much less. On the time, we had moved out of our space. We have been doing a renovation on our space. We have been residing in what was once a way smaller space. It was once beautiful echoey, as it was once necessarily one giant room on this space. We had a couple of bedrooms off of it, however the kitchen, primary residing spaces, eating room, and many others., was once all one giant room. It had no carpet and was once very echoey.

By means of the tip of this time period, we have been on this space for seven months. We had the youngsters at house, since the pandemic had began via 2020. We have been seeking to run a industry on this room. The children are all seeking to cross to university on this room. It was once chaos. It was once beautiful horrible, beautiful wild via the tip of that keep ahead of we were given again into our now-renovated space. And mainly, we reached out and employed a number of superior folks that experience helped us to construct this into an out of this world corporate and, most significantly, to stay us within the sport.

One humorous incident we had that got here out of whilst we have been residing in that home is we went on a commute. Katie and I went on a commute whilst we have been there, and we had a tender couple—a tender married couple—come and watch the youngsters. They stayed in our room whilst we have been there. On the time, we have been recording the podcast in the one position lets, the one position with any carpeting, which was once that master suite. They stroll in there and what do we have now? Now we have cameras arrange, we have now microphones arrange, we have now lighting arrange. So, they arrive out and ask our oldest daughter, “What precisely do your oldsters do on this room?” They felt very a lot reassured after they came upon that I in fact had a podcast. It was once a humorous state of affairs.

Let’s pay attention our subsequent gratitude Discuss Pipe.

Well being is so treasured. It is fascinating in non-public finance we discuss such a lot about cash. We are seeking to get extra money. We are seeking to construct cash, we are seeking to have extra money, now not working out of cash in retirement. Cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash. However actually, upon getting sufficient, the proscribing asset to your lifestyles is not cash. You have sufficient. It is now time. There is not any option to get extra time. You can’t cross to paintings and industry your time for time. You’ll’t get it. In many ways, you’ll be able to industry cash for time, however even the ones are restricted. You’ll pay anyone to wash your home and anyone to shovel your driveway. You’ll get a NetJets subscription as a substitute of using with the remainder of us within the farm animals automobile, save your self a while on shuttle, the ones varieties of issues. For essentially the most phase, you most effective get such a lot time on the earth. And it is arduous to revel in that point whilst you should not have excellent fitness. Well being and time, the ones transform the precious commodities as you construct wealth. The ones get started mattering an entire lot extra.

Our subsequent one comes from Andrea. Let’s take a concentrate.

That is a very good level. Diagnoses continuously arise all at once. The day gone by, I needed to inform anyone that he had most cancers. And that continuously turns into my position, falls to me, simply because folks are available in with undiagnosed signs. On this case, this was once a overdue 70s-year-old male who had again ache. After I talked to him, he’d had again ache for a very long time. It became out no one had ever in fact taken an image of his again. No X-rays, no CT scans, no MRIs. I mentioned, “Smartly, it is been lengthy sufficient. Somebody wishes to seem. Simply to ensure there is not anything in reality dangerous happening that you want surgical operation for or you want another remedy for.” It seems he had a number of metastases in his backbone and in his pelvis, and that is the reason most certainly the reason for his again ache. And a few horrible spinal stenosis too, however it was once most certainly the mets that have been inflicting all his ache. I needed to cross in there and ruin that information to him and his expensive spouse and his son. In reality we have now excellent fitness till we should not have excellent fitness. That continuously is a unexpected exchange. Be glad about what you’ve got health-wise. It is superb now and then so as to revel in that. Even simply waking up and now not being in ache. There are a large number of folks that do not revel in that form of an lifestyles. They are in ache at all times. I do know when I am nauseated or I am in ache, and even I simply itch, I am depressing. I’m the epitome of the person chilly. If the rest’s now not best, I am getting in a nasty temper about it. I wish to be extra thankful for the fantastic fitness that I do revel in.

Let’s pay attention from Lauren now.

That is an excellent factor to be thankful for. We also are very thankful for the snow. I simply went snowboarding two days in the past on November 12, and there was once a large number of snow. The entire rocks have been lined, which we are beautiful thinking about in Utah. We’ve got been in the midst of a drought right here for a few years, and we have now had a variety of years when the rocks in reality were not lined—even on the finish of January. We are extremely joyful so as to cross snowboarding. Sadly, everyone else was once extremely joyful too. The elevate strains have been like 40 mins lengthy. It was once more or less horrible that method. Most effective part the lifts are open, and the elevate strains are tremendous lengthy. But it surely was once nice to be out. It was once in fact heat as a result of it is nonetheless November. It was once like being out within the spring. We are additionally thankful for that—now not only for the snow to play in all wintry weather, however as it fills up our reservoirs for the spring and that permits us to do a wide variety of alternative amusing actions, however most significantly, we have now one thing to drink and shower with. We are additionally thankful to have snow at the mountains after I glance out from my place of job right here at WCI headquarters in Utah.

Melody Beattie mentioned, “Gratitude turns what we have now into sufficient, and extra. It turns denial into acceptance, chaos into order, confusion into readability. It is sensible of our previous, brings peace for nowadays, and creates a imaginative and prescient for the following day.” I feel there is a large number of fact to that. Having an angle of gratitude adjustments you from an absence mentality into an sufficient mentality. While you center of attention on people, you might be thankful for what you’ve got. You center of attention on people, and it brings much more happiness into your lifestyles. Every other considered one of my favourite gratitude quotes is in fact a Vietnamese proverb that is going, “When consuming fruit, take note the one that planted the tree.” There is at all times anyone who got here ahead of, and also you have been playing some great benefits of their paintings, in their sacrifice. You in reality will have to make an effort to more or less depend your blessings. Willie Nelson mentioned, “After I began counting my blessings, my entire lifestyles became round.”

Our subsequent Discuss Pipe is from Tyler, who’s close to and expensive to the hearts of all people right here at the WCI podcast staff.

Thank you, Tyler. Tyler is married to our present podcast manufacturer Megan right here at White Coat Investor. Now we have a couple of people right here at The White Coat Investor which can be more or less audience-facing. In case you are within the Fb workforce, you realize about Michelle who is helping run that Fb workforce. If you happen to’ve gotten pupil mortgage recommendation from Andrew, you might have met him. Clearly, Dr. Spath does a large number of ambassadoring for us and is helping host the podcast and host the convention and the ones varieties of issues. So, there are a few of us which can be more or less ahead going through, however most people right here at The White Coat Investor paintings in the back of the scenes. Megan is a type of. If you happen to’ve loved the per 30 days newsletters, you do not notice that Megan has her fingerprints all over the place the per 30 days newsletters. Identical factor with this podcast now that she’s generating it.

Tyler, her husband, is a dentist via coaching. He practiced dentistry in addition to did some educational dentistry for a variety of years. Has had some incapacity problems through which he has transform extraordinarily thankful for his incapacity insurance coverage. Additionally, he’s now pivoting careers, and he’s in fact now performing some monetary advising with one of the most companies that we’ve got been operating with for years and years right here. Simply as he’s thankful for his affiliation right here, we’re thankful for our affiliation with Tyler and the entire superb issues he is performed. I simply in fact referred a colleague to him, anyone I met at a talking gig I had in northern Utah remaining week. This was once a talking gig to dentists and I am like, “Oh, I’ve the very best user for you,” and hooked up them.

It is beautiful superior so as to paintings with such a fantastic workforce of folks. I come with now not simply the WCI group of workers, however all of our companions which can be available in the market. Those are those who we’ve got referred folks to for no matter want they could have. Insurance coverage, monetary advising, tax lend a hand, pupil mortgage refinancing, no matter. It is superb to have an affiliation with you guys. With out you, The White Coat Investor would now not be essentially what it’s nowadays. This clearly additionally extends to the viewers, to all of you. With out you, there could be no White Coat Investor. In fact, The White Coat Investor isn’t me. It’s you. You might be The White Coat Traders. You might be who the weblog and, specifically, the podcast is set. The entire level of it’s to serve you higher, to glue you with the nice guys within the trade, to provide you with an excellent shake on Wall Boulevard.

That is what we are doing right here. That is what The White Coat Investor is all about. I am thankful for you since the alternative I have needed to serve such a lot of of you has introduced richness in my lifestyles in additional techniques than one. Each actually and metaphorically, it has dramatically enriched my lifestyles so as to serve you right here at The White Coat Investor. I am hoping you’ve got an out of this world Thanksgiving. Whether or not or now not you trust the politics of Thanksgiving, I am hoping you’ll take an afternoon this 12 months to be thankful for what you’ve got and let that convey happiness into your lifestyles.

These days, we have now  a few interviews. Our first one is with Andrew from studentloanadvice.com. You guys know Andrew, he is been on right here a variety of occasions ahead of. A host of you’ve got in fact had conversations with him. You’ll at all times cross to studentloanadvice.com and guide an appointment with Andrew. For approximately an hour of your time and a couple of hundred greenbacks, he can you’ll want to’re doing the fitting factor together with your pupil loans.

Alternatively, I simply recorded this interview on November 14. We simply recorded this remaining week, and it is already a little bit bit outdated as a result of we communicate in regards to the forgiveness side of the brand new Biden forgiveness plan. That is the $10,000 or $20,000 in the event you had a Pell Grant forgiveness of your pupil loans. Since that point, there was a pass judgement on who has in fact struck it down and mentioned it is unlawful. Now, I am certain this factor’s going to be appealed the entire option to the Very best Courtroom. However stay that during thoughts. We attempt to stay this up to the moment, however issues exchange so rapid every now and then that during between recording and whilst you concentrate to this, adjustments happen. As you concentrate to this, if that sounds now not reasonably proper, it is because it is not reasonably proper. However I nonetheless assume the whole lot else we discuss on this interview is price your time. So, let’s take a concentrate to that. The ones of you with pupil loans wish to concentrate further arduous to it.

[Editor’s Note: On November 22, it was reported that the Biden administration was planning to extend the student loan holiday through June 30, 2023, if the student loan holiday continued to be tied up in the courts.]

Andrew, there are a wide variety of loopy issues going down with pupil loans. Are you able to replace us on what is been happening in recent years?

Now, we talked, I have no idea, a 12 months in the past or so, and folks have been nonetheless within the 0% mode. They might been taking those 0% funds or non-payments—no matter you need to name them—and having them depend. Some folks had mentioned, “Smartly, what if charges cross up? Possibly I will have to refinance now when I will nonetheless refinance to two% or 3%, even if I am giving up my 0% for the following couple of months or no matter.” Now charges are a little bit upper. What was once the fitting transfer? Did the ones folks do the fitting factor that refinanced six months in the past? Or have been they protecting on for the 0% now?

Nonetheless 4.5% beats 6.8%. There is nonetheless financial savings there needless to say. Plus, you get the money again and we are nonetheless giving out a web based path at The White Coat Investor for many who refinance thru our hyperlinks. It is nonetheless an choice. It nonetheless works for a lot of people, specifically the ones with personal loans. Personal loans you’ll be able to refinance early and continuously. They are by no means going to qualify for Public Carrier Mortgage Forgiveness.

What do you take into accounts the potential for this in reality going thru, that individuals who paintings for a non-public workforce that contracts with a 501(c)(3) clinic, you assume that’ll in reality undergo? What is your intestine sense?

The issue is they modify the foundations so temporarily every now and then. Our careers, we need to plan them up to now out upfront that it is arduous to make the entire proper choices, particularly when issues are replacing so temporarily at all times. In fact, there is additionally the pushback from the folks which can be like, “Smartly, what on this planet? Why did not I simply cross in a deferral in residency? Why’d I make those IDR funds? I used to be seeking to do the fitting factor and now this man who did not do the fitting factor is being rewarded for it.” That is very a lot a large number of the pushback that got here even with simply the $10,000 in forgiveness. Politicians heard about that. They are like, “What the heck? I paid off my pupil loans or I did not cross to school as a result of I could not manage to pay for it.” And now those guys get $10,000 in loose cash. I feel there is at all times that possibility of pushback, maintaining it from replacing as smartly.

However at any price, it’s excellent to have you ever on once more, Andrew. For many who want some lend a hand with their pupil loans, if you want lend a hand with the scholar mortgage plan, you want any person that can assist you run the numbers, make a decision what IDR program to be in, make a decision whether or not to move for Public Carrier Mortgage Forgiveness or now not, make a decision when to refinance, make a decision easy methods to report your taxes to maximise your forgiveness, those are the entire problems that Andrew offers with all day lengthy. You’ll signal as much as have a session with him at studentloanadvice.com. Thank you once more, Andrew, for being at the podcast.

This interview is with considered one of our keynote audio system for WCICON. If you happen to like what you pay attention, you might wish to join and are available to that convention. You’ll do this at wcievents.com. That is Dr. Stacy Taniguchi, who’s a pricey good friend of mine, anyone I’m extremely thankful for. He will communicate a little bit bit in regards to the presentation he will be making at WCICON. Welcome to the podcast, Stacy.

I have recognized Stacy for a very long time, longer than another speaker we’ve got ever had on the convention. He will be considered one of our keynote audio system this 12 months. Do you need to inform them in short the place we met?

We cross long ago, long ago. However what is fascinating and the explanation you might be coming to talk on the convention is more or less what you might have performed since then, since we knew each and every different when I used to be a child. After you completed your highschool instructing profession, you introduced any other profession. You went off and were given a Ph.D. in necessarily training management. Let us know about what you might have performed together with your profession since that point.

Let us know a little bit bit about what you will be speaking about on the convention.

Early in lifestyles, you probably did one thing that the general public have now not performed of their lives. You made a listing. You are cautious to not name it a bucket record, however you made a listing of stuff you sought after to do for your lifestyles. Inform our listeners about this record.

Give us some examples of one of the crucial issues that you simply put to your record.

While you have a look at the record, what share of your record have you ever discovered that you have achieved already for your lifestyles?

Congratulations on conducting that. That is beautiful spectacular to have designed a lifestyles upfront after which lived it. I am having a look ahead to our viewers, the White Coat Traders, to be informed out of your knowledge, to be informed from this way that you have taken to lifestyles, and to in reality snatch the bull via the horns and to take from lifestyles essentially the most that you’ll be able to get out of it and what will convey you essentially the most happiness and essentially the most long-term pleasure. Congratulations to you on that. We’re excited to have you ever on the convention. Thanks, Dr. Taniguchi for being at the podcast.

I am hoping you loved that. I’ve a large number of tales with Stacy. We spent a large number of time in combination. We’ve got climbed mountains in combination, together with 20 days we spent on Denali. I will take note one time he was once more or less mad at me. I am a 17-year-old child—I am about to show 18—and we are in a snow cave. There is, I have no idea, 3 or 4 people more youthful males in there. This snow cave has settled a little bit bit. We most certainly most effective have six inches of air above our heads whilst we are laying within the snow cave. We are at 16,400 toes at the West Buttress of Denali. We have been actually on a ridge, dug right into a ridge in a snow cave. You cross off one facet of the ridge, you give way 3,000 toes. You cross off the opposite facet of the ridge, it’s 2,000 toes down. The wind is howling. It is 80 or 100 mph of wind. You don’t cross outdoor with the exception of to move No. 2. That was once the one reason why we went outdoor for days. We have been there actually for 4 days, dug into this snow cave. He was once pissed off in any respect people, most certainly for now not serving to out with no matter had to be helped out with. More than likely performing some cooking or some melting snow or one thing like that. He sticks his head within the snow cave and yells at us and informed us what we must be doing, which was once true, after all.

One of the crucial nice reminiscences I’ve from that commute is him poking in. We’ve got simply been sitting there dawdling the time away since the wind’s blowing 90 mph when issues in fact had to be performed. I take into accounts that so much with my children. As a result of my children dawdle so much when issues in fact wish to be performed. I am thankful for that lesson that I discovered there. As you’ll to find out on the convention, Stacy could also be the one keynote speaker we’ve got ever had at WCICON who I’ve in fact attempted to kill. Now not on objective, however we’ve got been thru a reasonably aggravating incident, as smartly, that he will be speaking about, I am certain, on the convention. Come and listen to about that, as smartly.

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That is White Coat Investor podcast quantity 290 – Gratitude.

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That is proceeding Monetary Schooling week right here on the White Coat Traders. So, if you have not heard at the weblog or from the emails, the whole lot’s 10% off this week. That incorporates our lessons, comprises our meetings, comprises our swag from our WCI retailer, comprises the books. You were given to shop for them during the WCI retailer to get that. I have no idea that Amazon’s going to provide you with 10% off. However all our stuff is 10% off this week. That is going, I consider, from the twenty first during the twenty eighth of November.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Rejoice Thanksgiving week, rejoice Proceeding Monetary Schooling week, get 10% off the whole lot. That is your probability. If you happen to’ve been looking forward to an excellent value on the rest we promote right here at WCI, now could be the time.

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The code you want to understand to position in to get all that stuff at a bargain, WCICFE2022. That is White Code Investor Proceeding Monetary Schooling 2022. WCICFE2022 is the code.

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All proper. Our quote of the date nowadays comes from Jeff Bezos. Sure, that Jeff Bezos, the founding father of Amazon, who mentioned, “Given a ten% probability of a 100 occasions payoff, you will have to take that wager each time.” And obviously, he has a variety of occasions in his lifestyles.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Smartly, nowadays is Thanksgiving. This podcast is shedding on Thanksgiving. So, what higher time to thanks for what you do as a health care provider, as a dentist, as a PA, an NP, pharmacist, no matter you do as a excessive revenue skilled. It isn’t simple paintings. A few of you might be to your method into paintings this morning to paintings on Thanksgiving and everyone else is consuming turkey.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Do not be concerned, I am proper there with you. I am operating this night time. I have were given a shift. We are having our Thanksgiving meal about midday, and via 02:00 o’clock I’m going to be within the ER taking good care of with a bit of luck now not too many sufferers. However in my enjoy, the 2 worst days to paintings at the air are the day after Thanksgiving and the day after Christmas. It seems that folks may also be propped up at the vacation, however day after today they finally end up coming in. So with a bit of luck the vacation itself may not be too dangerous for you. In truth, I’m going to most certainly get a 2nd Turkey Day dinner from the cafeteria. So, I’m going to be caught on Turkey later nowadays, I am certain.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
What do I wish to let you know about? Oh, sure, we were given a convention arising. WCICON23, the Doctor Wellness and Monetary Literacy Convention, March 1st thru 4th in Phoenix. And if you do not know, March 1st thru 4th is the most efficient time of the entire 12 months to be in Phoenix. It is implausible. They have were given solar, they have got were given cactuses, they have got were given sand. You title it, it is there. However most significantly, it is very solid, best climate.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
We do a lot of occasions outdoor at this convention. In truth, a large number of folks, as a result of we file the whole lot and in fact broadcast it just about, if you are attending in user, you get the digital choice too. They in fact cross out via the pool and watch one of the crucial periods on their laptop. You should not have to take a seat in the school room even. You’ll put your toes up, put your toes within the pool and watch the periods. It’s an out of this world convention. It is my favourite convention that I have ever been to, and we are going again to the JW Marriott this 12 months. It will be superior.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
A pair issues you want to concentrate on although. In case you are making plans to return just about, there was once no early chook value for you coming just about, however beginning December fifth, you aren’t getting the swag bag anymore. We need to installed a swag bag closing date annually for this factor since the swag bag is so superior. You get a variety of books from keynote audio system within the swag bag. You get a number of alternative cool stuff. You in fact have to save lots of room for your baggage in your swag bag to move house from this convention. However we mail it out to the digital folks.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
So, we’d like time to in fact bodily print the books, get them to us, send them out to you, as a result of we would like you to have them ahead of the convention begins. So, in the event you join after December fifth, you do not get a swag bag. It’s a must to join via December fifth, whether or not you might be coming in user or just about, if you wish to get a swag bag. Now, you’ll be able to nonetheless come after that and we are hoping you do.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
However I am telling you, the swag bag’s price it. You will have to join via December fifth with the intention to get that. And I will bribe you to do it. I will provide you with an additional bargain. Do not inform anyone, all proper? Do not inform the folks at the YouTube channel, do not inform the folks at the WCI subreddit. Do not inform the folks at the weblog and discussion board.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
That is only for you, the podcast listeners. If you happen to use code PODCAST200, whilst you join the convention at wcievents.com, PODCAST200, you get $200 off. Now, that is just for the in user. In user common, in user top class. It isn’t for the visitor. That is already an enormous bargain. It isn’t for the digital. That is already an enormous bargain. It is only for in user. But when you’ll do PODCAST200 as your code in there, you can get a pair hundred greenbacks off. It isn’t reasonably as excellent as annually chook value, however it is very, very shut.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
I am hoping to look you there. I am having a look ahead to assembly as lots of you as conceivable. That is considered one of my favourite portions of the 12 months, is to in fact meet the White Coat Traders in user, concentrate on your considerations, concentrate on your successes and more or less get pumped up for the entire subsequent 12 months. So, I am hoping to look you there.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper. We informed you to ship in Discuss Pipes nowadays about gratitude. It’s Thanksgiving. What higher time to discuss gratitude than Thanksgiving? It rings a bell in my memory of Will Arnett quote. He mentioned, “I’m glad as a result of I am thankful. I select to be thankful that gratitude lets in me to be at liberty.”

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And is not that what all of us need? We are all in quest of happiness. And one of the most keys to this is gratitude. An angle of gratitude makes you happier. Your monetary state of affairs hasn’t modified. Your paintings state of affairs hasn’t modified, your relationships have not modified. All this modified as you might be extra thankful, and but you might be extra glad. That is why Doris Day mentioned, “Gratitude is riches and criticism is poverty.”

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Now, Thanksgiving isn’t like the arena’s maximum best vacation. It has some issues. In a large number of techniques, particularly once we have been in grade faculty, proper? We get this Thanksgiving tale that the Pilgrims and the Indians have been all very a lot buddy-buddy pals. That isn’t essentially the case. A part of the explanation they might even land there in Plymouth Rock was once as a result of a flu epidemic had long gone thru that Local American group within the prior couple of years and mainly killed everyone.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And so, the true historical past of the vacations could also be now not that fab. It rings a bell in my memory of a few of my favourite memes. You might have most certainly noticed this image of Geronimo and his band. It is most often titled “Place of origin Safety” on the most sensible, or “Authentic Place of origin Safety” on the most sensible. After which on the backside, it has a caption like “Combating terrorism since 1492”, or “Protecting the borders since 1492”, or “Place of origin Safety a bit of overdue now”.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And it is true, there are a large number of horrible issues that have been performed all through this 400-year warfare, the Eu settlers had with Local American citizens as they moved east to west around the continent. Atrocities on all sides. There are some very good books that speak about the whole lot that took place. The historical past itself is attention-grabbing and is aware of an excessive amount of tragedy there.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
So, I will perceive why there is a large number of folks that do not in reality like celebrating this vacation, however I feel you need to rejoice it anyway. Divorce it from its historical past and acknowledge an enormous good thing about having gratitude, of celebrating gratitude at some point a 12 months. Whether or not it comes from one thing that you do not in reality admire or do not even trust, that is ok. It is nonetheless profitable to rejoice gratitude. As Voltaire mentioned, “Appreciation is an excellent factor. It makes what is very good and others belong to us as smartly.”

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper. I requested you guys to position some gratitude stuff at the Discuss Pipe and we were given a variety of those who in fact did. So, I am excited to listen to what they are thankful for. This primary one is from an nameless listener. Let’s take a concentrate.

Speaker:
I sought after to mention thanks such a lot to all of my place of job group of workers from the entrance table to my nurses and MAs to the lab. They create me granola bars when I am operating thru lunch and smile when I am having a traumatic day. Thanks to them and everybody else doing the similar. Glad vacations.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Amen. That could be a good thing to be thankful for. You realize what I am thankful for? I had a affected person who was once extraordinarily unwell, got here in from what necessarily was once a hoarder space, lined in stool, endured to have bowel actions all through her ER keep. And sorry for the ones of you who’re doctors. It is more or less gross. The entire room smells a melena, which in the event you’ve smelled it, you realize what that smells like. And take a look at as easiest we will be able to, the entire robes and gloves and the whole lot we wore and attempted to wash her up.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
By the point we are performed, there is stool all over the place on this room. It is all over the place the gurney. It is all over the place the ground. It is all over the place. And I am thankful for the one who went to wash that up. That was once anyone’s activity to move in and blank up that room once we have been performed taking good care of that affected person. And they’re very a lot part of our staff in our ER as our housework group of workers, and I am tremendous thankful for them.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper, our subsequent gratitude Discuss Pipe comes from Keenan.

Keenan:
Howdy, that is Keenan Brown. I simply sought after to get on right here to mention I am grateful for my fitness, my friends and family, all of my relationships, my training, my fiancé, and everybody over on the White Coat Investor. I in reality admire the whole lot you guys are doing. I have discovered so much. So, thanks.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Superior. Smartly, we are grateful that you are thankful for the group of workers right here. I’m for sure thankful for the group of workers right here. I do not understand how continuously I have mentioned this at the podcast, however in 2019, I used to be beautiful darn burned out at the White Coat Investor. A large number of you were not even taking note of this podcast again then. Hadn’t even heard of the White Coat Investor in 2019. However I used to be more or less performed. And Katie and I, we had a large determination of whether or not we have been going to make an organization larger and get much more lend a hand of folks serving to us stay it going, or whether or not we have been going to make it smaller and do exactly much less.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And on the time, we had moved out of our space. We have been doing a renovation on our space. We have been residing in what was once a way smaller space. It was once beautiful echoey, as it was once necessarily one giant room on this space. We had a couple of bedrooms off of it, however the kitchen, primary residing spaces, eating room, and many others, was once all one giant room. No carpeting, the rest, puts echoey.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And via the tip of this time period, we have been on this space for seven months. We had the youngsters at house since the pandemic had began via 2020. And so, we have been seeking to run a industry on this room. The children are all seeking to cross to university on this room. It was once chaos. It was once beautiful horrible, beautiful wild via the tip of that keep ahead of we were given again into our now renovated space. And mainly, we reached out and employed a number of superior folks that experience helped us to construct this into an out of this world corporate and most significantly, to stay us within the sport.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
One humorous incident we had that got here out of whilst we have been residing in that home is we went on a commute. Katie and I went on a commute whilst we have been there, and we had a tender couple, a tender married couple come and watch the youngsters. And so, they stayed in our room whilst we have been there.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And on the time we have been recording the podcast and the one position lets, the one position with any carpeting, which was once that master suite. They stroll in there and what do we have now? Now we have cameras arrange, we have now microphones arrange, we have now lighting arrange. So, they arrive out and so they communicate to our oldest Whitney, and they are like, “What precisely do your oldsters do on this room?” And so they have been felt very a lot reassured after they came upon that I in fact had a podcast. So, it was once more or less a humorous state of affairs. We have been thankful for them for looking at our youngsters, as a result of we did have a in reality nice commute, however it was once more or less a humorous state of affairs.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper. To get a divorce, our podcast nowadays, we’ve got were given a few interviews. Our first one is with Andrew from studentloanadvice.com. You guys know Andrew, he is been on right here a variety of occasions ahead of. A host of you’ve got in fact had conversations with him. You’ll at all times cross to studentloanadvice.com and guide an appointment with Andrew. For approximately an hour of your time and a couple of hundred greenbacks, he can you’ll want to’re doing the fitting factor together with your pupil loans.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Alternatively, I simply recorded this. It is November 14th nowadays. We simply recorded this remaining week and it is already a little bit bit outdated as a result of we communicate in regards to the forgiveness side from the brand new Biden forgiveness plan. That is the $10,000 or $20,000 in the event you had a Pell grant forgiveness of your pupil loans.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Since that point, there was a pass judgement on who has in fact struck it down and mentioned it is unlawful. Now, I am certain this factor’s going to be appealed the entire option to the Very best Courtroom. However stay that during thoughts. We attempt to stay this up to the moment, however issues exchange so rapid every now and then that during between recording, whilst you concentrate to this, adjustments happen.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
So, as you concentrate to this, and that sounds now not reasonably proper, it is because it is not reasonably proper. However I nonetheless assume the whole lot else we discuss on this interview is price your time. So, let’s take a concentrate to that. The ones of you with pupil loans wish to concentrate further arduous to it.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper, we were given our pupil mortgage guy, Andrew Paulson from studentloanadvice.com again at the podcast. Welcome Andrew.

Andrew Paulson:
Howdy, excellent to be right here once more, Jim.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
You are looking more than pleased. You might have been on a commute in recent years or one thing?

Andrew Paulson:
Right here and there, however I simply were given performed snowboarding the opposite day. I am in reality happy that we are already getting snow within the Wasatch Mountains.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Yeah. Superior. Smartly, we are recording this on November tenth, and certainly, we’re having a look at an attractive excellent snow 12 months up to now. Optimistically it is helping us get out of our drought. However we aren’t right here to discuss snowboarding. We wish to pay attention an replace. There are a wide variety of loopy issues going down with pupil loans. Are you able to replace us on what is been happening in recent years?

Andrew Paulson:
Yeah. As maximum of you might be mindful, we simply hit this October thirty first closing date that was once pertinent to what is referred to as the Public Carrier Mortgage Forgiveness Waiver. And that was once the place they quickly comfy a variety of the foundations for the PSLF program, the place they have been counting overdue funds, they have been counting underneath funds. They have been even intended to be counting some funds that you simply possibly had made ahead of you went to scientific faculty.

Andrew Paulson:
So, all of that stuff more or less wrapped up on October thirty first. That was once a large, giant push. And once more, that was once only for debtors that have been within the public area. And so, you had to do that consolidation and put up your PSLF bureaucracy via that point. However I did wish to more or less convey to gentle as smartly, there is additionally this revenue pushed compensation waiver that was once intended to be extra appropriate for the hundreds, all of the 45 million federal pupil mortgage debtors available in the market.

Andrew Paulson:
And so, this is more or less a run on from one of the crucial stuff that counted underneath the PSLF waiver that is going to be counting all through the revenue pushed compensation waiver. However the giant distinction there was once the reality that they will be counting forbearance, sure forbearance and deferment. That is that 365 days of consecutive forbearance or 36 months of accumulative forbearance or longer.

Andrew Paulson:
The easiest instance that I noticed is a psychiatrist resident that I used to be operating with as a shopper that were given 4 years of credit score all through their residency as though it have been cost against the general public provider mortgage forgiveness program.

Andrew Paulson:
Actually what those waivers are doing is they are in reality serving to to expedite your skill to obtain public provider mortgage forgiveness and even pursue that 20-to-25-year taxable forgiveness observe as smartly. So, there’s that. And that’s the reason intended to be carried out via the IDR Waiver via July 1st, 2023. So simply know, I do know there is a large number of you available in the market which can be ready to look your cost counts get up to date and for them to procedure all the bureaucracy, however that is the closing date there.

Andrew Paulson:
I additionally sought after to say that they’re seeking to convey some wholesale adjustments to the general public provider mortgage forgiveness program this is in line with a few of these brief enjoyable of the foundations, no matter you name it, underneath those waivers the place they are beginning to check out to in reality depend sessions of time whilst you have been in army forbearance or you might be on energetic provider accountability.

Andrew Paulson:
And the opposite is whilst you transfer compensation systems, or if you are re-certifying. From time to time they are going to put your loans into what is referred to as administrative forbearance. They are seeking to get started counting the ones as smartly, as a result of generally they put your loans into this administrative forbearance for 2 months and you do not get credit score for the ones. That suggests two extra months most likely that you are going to must pay at a better stage of revenue, which is a ache.

Andrew Paulson:
So, there is that. And they’ll get started permitting you to make funds. They’ve already carried out the place you’ll be able to make a lump sum cost as much as your subsequent re-certification day, or you’ll be able to simply make your per 30 days required cost, however they are additionally going to put into effect installment funds as smartly.

Andrew Paulson:
So, that is key for the ones of you which can be getting mortgage compensation help. Possibly it is from the VA, possibly it is from the NIH, NHSC or the rest to that impact. This will have to lend a hand help you more or less double dip on the ones other compensation systems.

Andrew Paulson:
After which the only different level that I sought after to spotlight is they are seeking to exchange the employment requirement for public provider mortgage forgiveness. And take into account, that is intended to be carried out via July 1st, 2023. It isn’t going to be from now till that time, however they’ll proceed to talk about this, the place they’ll simplify the employment necessities. It was once you needed to be operating full-time all the way down to 30 hours every week.

Andrew Paulson:
And it was once more or less tough as a result of every now and then you might be operating 30 hours every week, however you might be now not thought to be complete time. And so, your employer would not signal the shape. Smartly, now they’ll take away that in order that it is just 30 hours every week that you must paintings, whether or not that is full-time or now not. It is only a very blank and easy 30 hours every week.

Andrew Paulson:
And the only different level is you must be hired via a nonprofit or a 501(c)(3) to do the general public provider mortgage forgiveness program. They’re seeking to exchange this.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Wow.

Andrew Paulson:
And it is explicit to healthcare suppliers which can be operating specifically states that don’t seem to be allowed to be immediately hired via nonprofit hospitals. That is the ones operating in California and Texas. You’ll be able to pay attention about Kaiser at all times. So, they are seeking to exchange that as smartly. And that might exchange the paradigm for public provider mortgage forgiveness by which it’s essential be operating at personal workforce or a non-public group that is reduced in size with a clinic and nonetheless get credit score for PSLF. That is an enormous factor that we are nonetheless more or less seeking to wait to look what occurs. However the ones are the massive issues.

Andrew Paulson:
After which the opposite is we are going to must make funds in January once more. The pause is I consider over. And that they are now not going to proceed to increase this. If you have not made plans to your compensation program on what you will do, now could be the very best time to get that arrange so that you are in autopay come January.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Yeah. Now, we talked, I have no idea, a 12 months in the past or so, and folks have been nonetheless within the 0% mode. They might been taking those 0% funds or non-payments, no matter you need to name them, having them depend. And a few folks had mentioned, “Smartly, what if charges cross up? Possibly I will have to refinance now when I will nonetheless refinance to two% or 3%, even if I am giving up my 0% for the following couple of months or no matter.” Now charges are a little bit upper.

Andrew Paulson:
Oh yeah.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
So, what was once the fitting transfer? Did the ones folks do the fitting factor that refinanced six months in the past? Or have been they protecting on for the 0% now?

Andrew Paulson:
Yeah. And so as to add any other factor in there as smartly, then the $10,000 to $20,000 of pupil mortgage forgiveness that we’ve not touched on, more or less were given into the combination. However what I used to be seeing was once attendings that I used to be operating with in January and February, they might refinance their pupil loans from the 6% or 7% federally, what they have been to at least one% to two%. And we can’t get with regards to that.

Andrew Paulson:
These days, it is 4.5% to 6-ish, it’s the variability at this time. With them getting raised, I feel it was once remaining week, and I do know that there is any other price hike that is most certainly expected this coming December. So, in the event you have been within the camp the place you have been certain that you simply have been going to refinance, possibly you’ll have performed it previous. And it’s essential nonetheless do it now ahead of charges cross up.

Andrew Paulson:
The place this in reality benefited you was once if you are in a state of affairs and you might be in a role that qualifies for the general public provider mortgage forgiveness program and you were not going to refinance it. So, there are indisputably some folks which can be most certainly hurting a little bit bit as a result of they might have locked in the ones decrease charges again then after which skipped at the 0% passion that they have got had this 12 months.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Yeah. Nonetheless 4.5% beats 6.8%.

Andrew Paulson:
Yeah, utterly.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
There is nonetheless financial savings there needless to say. Plus, you get the money again and we are nonetheless giving out a web based path on the White Coat Investor for many who refinance thru our hyperlinks, which you’ll be able to cross to simply at the primary web page there. If you happen to cross to our counseled tab, you can see pupil mortgage refinancing underneath that. So, it is nonetheless an choice. It nonetheless works for a lot of people, specifically the ones with personal loans. Personal loans you’ll be able to refinance early and continuously. They are by no means going to qualify for public provider mortgage forgiveness.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
What do you take into accounts the potential for this in reality going thru, that individuals who paintings for a non-public workforce that contracts with a 501(c)(3) clinic, you assume that’ll in reality undergo? What is your intestine sense?

Andrew Paulson:
I have been shocked prior to now with such a lot of the stuff that is counted. I used to be very, very shocked that forbearances and deferments counted. And I in reality sought after to more or less prolong telling those who this in fact took place till I noticed that one of the crucial stuff that was once discussed at the revenue pushed compensation waiver was once in fact going down. As a result of I sought after so as to see that this took place and it has.

Andrew Paulson:
So, I am nonetheless at the camp the place I have no idea if they’ll permit that, as a result of then it will get very, very complicated to what are the states that do not permit hospitals to rent for sure healthcare suppliers, physicians, no matter you name it. After which that is an entire any other felony state of affairs as a result of then it is what if you are operating within the state of Pennsylvania? You are now not in California or in Texas and you might be paid via a non-public workforce, however you might be operating at a clinic, that is a nonprofit clinic that may’t group of workers this radiologist or this anesthesiologist. So, they have got to move to a couple personal workforce to do this.

Andrew Paulson:
I nonetheless do assume I am within the camp that I have no idea if this can be a surefire factor that is going to occur as a result of if it does, then I feel it is going to more or less muddy this case even additional on employment and what qualifies. And it will exchange, possibly there is going to be much less physicians which can be going to be taking the ones jobs in academia if they may be able to have a special pay construction, possibly a special ceiling if they are operating in personal follow, however they nonetheless qualify for the mortgage forgiveness program.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Yeah. The issue is they modify the foundations so temporarily every now and then. And our careers, we need to plan them up to now out upfront that it is arduous to make the entire proper choices particularly when issues are replacing so temporarily at all times. And naturally, there is additionally the pushback from the folks which can be like, “Smartly, what on this planet? Why did not I simply cross in a deferral in residency? Why’d I make those IDR funds? I used to be seeking to do the fitting factor and now this man who did not do the fitting factor is being rewarded for it.”

Dr. Jim Dahle:
That is very a lot a large number of pushbacks that got here even with simply the $10,000 in forgiveness. Politicians heard about that. They are like, “What the heck? I paid off my pupil loans or I did not cross to school as a result of I could not manage to pay for it.” And now those guys get $10,000 in loose cash. So, I feel there is at all times that possibility of pushback, maintaining it from replacing as smartly.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
However at any price, it’s excellent to have you ever on once more, Andrew. For many who want some lend a hand with their pupil loans, if you want lend a hand with the scholar mortgage plan, you want any person that can assist you run the numbers, make a decision what IDR program to be in, make a decision whether or not to move for public provider mortgage forgiveness or now not, make a decision when to refinance, make a decision easy methods to report your taxes to maximise your forgiveness, those are the entire problems that Andrew offers with all day lengthy. So, you’ll be able to signal as much as have a session with him at studentloanadvice.com. Thank you once more, Andrew, for being at the podcast.

Andrew Paulson:
Thank you, Jim. See you quickly.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper, I am hoping that was once useful. Take into account, as I mentioned ahead of this interview, that $10,000 forgiveness is lately on hang at easiest. It is been struck down via a courtroom. If it will get to the Very best Courtroom, it would possibly not get thru. It is a beautiful conservative Very best Courtroom at this time. And there is a large number of conservatives that don’t seem to be glad about public provider mortgage forgiveness, a lot much less this new forgiveness program, the Biden Forgiveness program, for lack of a higher time period.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper, let’s concentrate to Elizabeth. She has referred to as in with a gratitude Discuss Pipe.

Elizabeth:
Hello, Dr. Dahle. At the moment, I am lately grateful for a wholesome thoughts and a wholesome frame, and that I’ve a wholesome circle of relatives that I am getting to spend time with.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper. Well being. Well being is so treasured. It is fascinating in non-public finance we discuss such a lot about cash. We are seeking to get extra money. We are seeking to construct cash, we are seeking to have extra money, now not working out of cash in retirement. Cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
However actually, upon getting sufficient, the proscribing asset to your lifestyles is not cash. You will have sufficient. It is now time. And there’s no option to get extra time. You can’t cross to paintings and industry your time for time. You’ll’t get it. In many ways you’ll be able to industry cash for time, however even the ones are restricted. You’ll pay anyone to wash your home and anyone to shovel your driveway. You’ll get a web jet subscription as a substitute of using with the remainder of us within the farm animals automobile, save your self a while on shuttle, the ones varieties of issues.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
However for essentially the most phase, you most effective get such a lot time on the earth. And it is arduous to revel in that point whilst you should not have excellent fitness. So, fitness, time, the ones transform the precious commodities as you construct wealth. The ones get started mattering an entire lot extra.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper, our subsequent one comes from Andrea. Let’s take a concentrate.

Andrea:
Howdy. This 12 months I’m in reality grateful for my fitness. I have not too long ago had some pals who’ve been identified with other scientific problems. And whilst I have watched them combat thru that, it has jogged my memory greater than ever to be thankful for the fitness of myself and my circle of relatives, and not to take it without any consideration.

Andrea:
I notice that may exchange any second from issues outdoor of our regulate a large number of occasions. And so, I am in reality attempting this 12 months to concentrate on gratitude for my fitness and my circle of relatives’s fitness, and likewise seeking to try to be higher at residing a wholesome way of life and instructing my children the significance of that too. So, this 12 months I’m thankful for that and praying for many who are suffering with fitness issues and hoping for higher issues within the new 12 months.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
That is a very good level. Diagnoses continuously arise all at once. The day gone by I needed to inform anyone that he had most cancers. And that continuously turns into my position, falls to me, simply because folks are available in with undiagnosed signs. On this case, this was once a overdue seventies 12 months outdated male who had again ache. And after I talked to him, he’d had again ache for a very long time.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And it became out no one had ever in fact taken an image of his again. No x-rays, no CT scans, no MRIs. And I mentioned, “Smartly, it is been lengthy sufficient. Somebody wishes to seem. Simply ensure that there is not anything in reality dangerous happening that you want surgical operation for or you want another remedy for.” And naturally, he is were given a number of metastases in his backbone and in his pelvis, and that is the reason most certainly the reason for his again ache. And a few horrible spinal stenosis too however it was once most certainly the mets that have been inflicting all his ache.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And so, I needed to cross in there and ruin that information to him and his expensive spouse and his son. And actually we have now excellent fitness till we should not have excellent fitness. And that continuously is a unexpected exchange. So, be thankful for what you’ve got fitness smart. It is superb now and then so as to revel in that. Or even simply waking up and now not being in ache. There is a large number of folks that do not revel in that form of an lifestyles. They are in ache at all times.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And I do know when I am nauseated or I am in ache, and even I simply itch, I am depressing. I’m the epitome of the person chilly. And if the rest’s now not best, I am getting in a nasty temper about it. And so, I wish to be extra thankful for the fantastic fitness that I do revel in.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper. We’re going to do any other interview. That is an interview with considered one of our keynote audio system from the convention that is arising from 2023 WCICON that I informed you about. And in the event you like what you pay attention right here, you might wish to join and are available to that convention. You’ll do this at wcievents.com.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
However that is Dr. Stacy Taniguchi, who’s a pricey good friend of mine, anyone I’m extremely thankful for. And he will communicate a little bit bit in regards to the presentation he will be making at WCICON.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Our visitor at the White Coat Investor podcast nowadays is Stacy Taniguchi, PhD. Welcome to the podcast, Stacy.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
Thank you, Jim. Thank you for having me.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
I have recognized Stacy for a very long time, longer than another speaker we’ve got ever had on the convention. He will be considered one of our keynote audio system this 12 months. Do you need to inform them in short the place we met?

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
Smartly, we just about more or less lived in the similar space in Anchorage, Alaska, and our affiliation was once mainly round our church, however I knew your circle of relatives rather well, your oldsters rather well. I nonetheless believe them excellent pals and notice them each every so often.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
There was once a bunch of you, your mates that went to the highschool the place I taught at in Anchorage. I feel I taught maximum of you, most certainly coached a few of you, even if I do know you have been more or less extra within the hockey scene and the ones sorts of issues and I used to be extra within the working scene. However, yeah, we did reasonably a bit of in combination, together with hiking Denali in combination.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Yeah. We cross long ago, long ago. However what is fascinating, and the explanation you might be coming to talk on the convention is more or less what you might have performed since then, since we knew each and every different when I used to be a child. And after you completed your highschool instructing profession, you introduced any other profession. You went off and were given a PhD in necessarily training management. And let us know about what you might have performed together with your profession since that point.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
Smartly, I spent 4 years at a college right here in Utah referred to as Brigham Younger College. I earned my PhD. And luckily, I used to be on the proper position on the proper time. They have been in search of a professor that might fill a place in a division referred to as Sport Control on campus. Ultimately that division was once moved to the Marriott College of Industry, and we more or less reinvented ourselves, however game is all about enjoy.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
And since my analysis and my research have been in a space referred to as Experiential Schooling, we ended up changing into the Division of Enjoy Design and Control. I taught there at BYU for 15, 16 years as a part of my 2nd profession, and ultimately retired in 2019.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Superior. And let us know a little bit bit about what you will be speaking about on the convention.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
I’ve spent most certainly maximum of my grownup lifestyles both guiding folks round adventures around the globe, or I have been instructing. And in that aggregate, I had a lot of studies the place I started to look that there are folks on this international which can be in reality thriving and playing lifestyles and in reality profiting from the alternatives that they’ve.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
And I have met some individuals who have in reality had some scenarios of their lifestyles that experience more or less led to them to be extra in a way of thinking of tolerating lifestyles, simply more or less residing daily, hoping that the following day may well be higher than the day before today, and and many others, and many others. And I simply started to comprehend, “You realize what? I wish to to find out why the individuals who have this pleasure of their lifestyles, thriving of their lifestyles, short of to simply are living on a daily basis to its fullest, and so they see lifestyles stuffed with alternatives.” They in reality have a look at it in that method.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
A large number of my analysis whilst I used to be a professor was once round what I name “What makes significant studies in lifestyles?” And in that procedure, I started to search out that there are issues that you’ll be able to in fact do for your lifestyles that may reinforce the alternatives, make you get up to the truth that your lifestyles is stuffed with alternatives and also you will have to attempt to benefit from it. It is in reality seeking to lend a hand folks remember the fact that this lifestyles is supposed so that you can thrive. So, determine it out and let me allow you to, I assume is the base line.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Now, early in lifestyles, you probably did one thing that the general public have now not performed of their lives. You made a listing, and you might be cautious to not name it a bucket record, however you made a listing of stuff you sought after to do for your lifestyles. Inform our listeners about this record.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
Yeah. I used to be born and raised in Hawaii, the fiftieth state, however I lived on an island Moloka‘i, which most certainly maximum of your viewers hasn’t been to, possibly hasn’t even heard of. However it is one of the most 8 islands within the chain. And our circle of relatives got here throughout, they subscribed to {a magazine} referred to as Existence Mag.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
I got here throughout one of the most problems and noticed a piece of writing a couple of gentleman who had made a listing of the issues he sought after to do in his lifestyles. He did not name it a bucket record. And I inform my audiences do not name it a bucket record. A bucket record is what you are making in preparation of dying. This was once a listing to are living, to are living a lifestyles to thrive. So, I name it the Thrive Checklist, or the Checklist to Thrive.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
I simply began striking issues down that I felt like “I might care to do this, I might like to look this, I might like to satisfy folks.” No matter. And I attempted to make it as particular as conceivable. And that was my roadmap as I more or less lived thru lifestyles.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
And since I have written them down, I have in reality discovered that after a possibility comes alongside, I attempt to benefit from it. I to find myself now not making choices in line with the truth that “Smartly, I should not have the time to do this at this time”, or “I in reality cannot manage to pay for to do this at this time”, or “I should not have pals to move do it with.” When the chance comes alongside, my angle is extra like, “Wow, that is on my record. I would possibly by no means have this chance once more. I will have to benefit from it.”

Dr. Jim Dahle:
So, give us some examples of one of the crucial issues that you simply put to your record.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
I am certain many of us would put sure issues down. When I used to be younger one of the most issues was once, I want to cross to school and graduate with some extent. So, it may be just about what everyone else most certainly needs to position down on their record. However I have had different such things as I sought after to construct my very own space. I finished up doing that during Alaska and ended up residing in it for like 15, 16 years.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
I sought after to discover ways to fly. So, alternatives got here alongside. My unique concept about short of to discover ways to fly was once clearly to fly a motorized aircraft, however in that procedure, I took good thing about finding out easy methods to hold drift after which ultimately went directly to get a pilot’s license. So, it is such things as that.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Superior. And whilst you have a look at the record, what share of your record have you ever discovered that you have achieved already for your lifestyles?

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
Smartly, over a length of about 10 years, the record grew to a couple of hundred pieces. And there is a explanation why it took a very long time to get a hold of this stuff. And within the presentation that I’m going to give, within the convention, I’m going to provide an explanation for one of the crucial issues that you must believe with the intention to put this record in combination. You are now not simply throwing the rest and the whole lot at the record.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
So, my record after about 10 years, got here out to be a couple of hundred issues. And again, I feel it was once round 2018, 2017, I after all checked off the a centesimal factor. So, my record is completed so far as what I in the beginning created.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Superior. Smartly, congratulations on conducting that. That is beautiful spectacular to have designed a lifestyles upfront after which lived it. And I am having a look ahead to our viewers, the White Coat Traders, to be informed out of your knowledge, to be informed from this way that you have taken to lifestyles and to in reality snatch the bull via the horns and take from lifestyles essentially the most that you’ll be able to get out of it and what will convey you essentially the most happiness and essentially the most long-term pleasure. So, congratulations to you on that.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
We’re excited to have you ever on the convention. The convention, for many who have now not but heard of it, you want to hear extra podcasts if you have not, to begin with. However for many who have now not heard of it, you’ll be able to nonetheless signal as much as come to the convention. That is the Doctor Wellness and Monetary Literacy Convention. It is March 1st thru 4th in Phoenix. You’ll cross to wcievents.com and join that.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
You’ll are available in user. You’ll come just about. We might like to have you ever. You’ll meet Stacy. You’ll meet me. It will be a fantastic convention. Thanks, Dr. Taniguchi for being at the podcast.

Dr. Stacy Taniguchi:
Thank you, Jim. I admire it.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper. I am hoping you loved that. I’ve a large number of tales with Stacy. We spent a large number of time in combination. We’ve got climbed mountains in combination, together with 20 days we spent on Denali. And I will take note one time he was once more or less mad at me. I am a 17-year-old child, I am about to show 18, and we are in a snow cave. There is, I have no idea, 3 or 4 people more youthful males in there. And this snow cave has settled a little bit bit. We most certainly most effective were given six inches of air above our heads whilst we are laying within the snow cave.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And we are at 16,400 toes at the West Buttress of Denali. We have been actually on a ridge, dug right into a ridge in a snow cave. You cross off one facet of the ridge, you give way 3,000 toes. You cross off the opposite facet of the ridge, it’s 2,000 toes down. And the wind is howling. It is 80 or 100 miles an hour of wind. You don’t cross outdoor with the exception of to move quantity two. That was once the one reason why we went outdoor for days. We have been there actually for 4 days, dug into this snow cave.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
He was once pissed off in any respect people, most certainly for now not serving to out with no matter had to be helped out with. More than likely performing some cooking or some melting snow or one thing like that. And he sticks his head within the snow cave and yells at us and informed us what we must be doing, which was once true, after all.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And one of the most nice reminiscences I’ve from that commute is him poking in. And we’ve got simply been sitting there dawdling the time away since the wind’s blowing 90 miles an hour when issues in fact had to be performed. And I take into accounts that so much with my children. As a result of my children dawdle so much when issues in fact wish to be performed. And I am thankful for that lesson that I discovered there.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
As you’ll to find out on the convention, Stacy could also be the one keynote speaker we’ve got ever had at WCICON who I’ve in fact attempted to kill. Now not on objective, however we’ve got been thru a reasonably aggravating incident as smartly that he will be speaking about, I am certain, on the convention. And so, you’ll be able to come and listen to about that as smartly.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper. Our subsequent gratitude Discuss Pipe comes from Lauren.

Lauren:
Hello, Dr. Dahle. At the moment, I’m very thankful for the home that I are living in, the gorgeous state that I are living in, and my canine and all of my circle of relatives surrounding me. I am so thankful that I used to be ready to shop for a space on this remaining 12 months. And I am thankful for the gorgeous mountains that I are living via and waking as much as snow at the mountains on a daily basis.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
That is an excellent factor to be thankful for. We also are very thankful. I simply went snowboarding two days in the past on November twelfth, and there was once a large number of snow. The entire rocks have been lined, which we are beautiful thinking about in Utah. We’ve got been in the midst of a drought right here for a few years and we have now had a variety of years when the rocks in reality were not lined, even on the finish of January.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
So, we are extremely joyful so as to cross snowboarding. Sadly, everyone else was once extremely joyful too. And so, the elevate strains have been like 40 mins lengthy. It was once more or less horrible that method. Most effective part the lifts are open and the elevate strains are tremendous lengthy.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
But it surely was once nice to be out. It was once in fact heat as a result of it is nonetheless November. It was once like being out within the spring. So, we are additionally thankful for that, now not only for the snow to play in all wintry weather, however as it fills up our reservoirs for the spring and that permits us to do a wide variety of alternative amusing actions, however most significantly, have one thing to drink and shower with. We are additionally thankful to have snow at the mountains after I glance out from my place of job right here at WCI headquarters in Utah.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Melody Beattie mentioned, “Gratitude turns what we have now into sufficient, and extra. It turns denial into acceptance, chaos into order, confusion into readability. It is sensible of our previous, brings peace for nowadays, and creates a imaginative and prescient for the following day.”

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And I feel there is a large number of fact to that. Having an angle of gratitude, adjustments you from an absence mentality into an sufficient mentality. While you center of attention on people, you might be thankful for what you’ve got, you center of attention on people and it brings much more happiness into your lifestyles.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Every other considered one of my favourite gratitude quotes is in fact a Vietnamese proverb that is going, “When consuming fruit, take note the one that planted the tree.” There is at all times anyone who got here ahead of and also you have been playing some great benefits of their paintings, in their sacrifice and in reality will have to make an effort to more or less depend your blessings. Willie Nelson mentioned, “After I began counting my blessings, my entire lifestyles became round.”

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And considered one of my favourite quotes as smartly on gratitude is from Robert Brault, who mentioned, “Benefit from the little issues, for at some point you might glance again and notice they have been the massive issues.” I feel there’s a large number of fact to that.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Our subsequent Discuss Pipe is from Tyler, who’s close to and expensive to the hearts of all people right here at the WCI podcast staff.

Tyler:
Hello, Dr. Dahle. I am hopping directly to proportion a couple of issues I am grateful for this 12 months. I am so thankful for my amusing, sensible, gorgeous spouse of 16 years, our 3 candy and highly spiced daughters, the nice fitness and enough wealth so as to do the issues we like in combination.

Tyler:
I am thankful for my 97 Camry that runs completely and not we could me down. I am thankful the Salt Lake space ski hotels are open ahead of Thanksgiving this 12 months. I am grateful for democracy, the fitting to vote my moral sense, and for all the ones over time who’ve sacrificed to uphold the ones rights for me.

Tyler:
I am thankful for my mother who gave up such a lot in order that I may achieve my complete possible in spite of difficult cases in our lifestyles. I am thankful to you, Dr. Dahle and the entire staff on the White Coat Investor whose platforms have remodeled my lifestyles in techniques I by no means may have imagined. Thanks such a lot. Glad Thanksgiving to you and to the entire White Coat listeners available in the market.”

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Thank you Tyler. Tyler is married to our present podcast manufacturer Megan right here at White Coat Investor. Now we have a couple of people right here on the White Coat Investor which can be more or less viewers going through. In case you are within the Fb workforce, you realize about Michelle who is helping run that Fb workforce. If you happen to’ve gotten pupil mortgage recommendation from Andrew, you might have met him. Clearly, Dr. Spath does a large number of ambassadoring for us and is helping host the podcast and host the convention and the ones varieties of issues.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
So, there is a few of us which can be more or less ahead going through, however most people right here on the White Coat Investor paintings in the back of the scenes. And Megan is a type of. If you happen to’ve loved the per 30 days newsletters, you do not notice that Megan has her fingerprints all over the place the per 30 days newsletters. Identical factor with this podcast now that she’s generating it.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Tyler, her husband, is a dentist via coaching. Practiced dentistry. Some educational dentistry for a variety of years. Has had some incapacity problems through which he has transform extraordinarily thankful for his incapacity insurance coverage. Additionally, he is more or less pivoting careers. And he’s in fact now performing some monetary advising with one of the most companies that we’ve got been operating with for years and years right here.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
And so, simply as he’s thankful for his affiliation right here, we’re thankful for our affiliation with Tyler and the entire superb issues he is performed. I simply in fact referred a colleague to him, anyone I met at a talking gig I had in Northern Utah remaining week. This was once a talking gig to dentists and I am like, “Oh, I were given the very best user for you.” And so, I hooked up them.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
It is beautiful superior so as to paintings with such a fantastic workforce of folks. And I come with now not simply the WCI group of workers, however all of our companions which can be available in the market. Those are those who we’ve got referred folks to for no matter want they could have. Insurance coverage, monetary advising, tax lend a hand, pupil mortgage refinancing, no matter.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
It is superb to have an affiliation with you guys. With out you, the White Coat Investor would now not be essentially what it’s nowadays. And this clearly additionally extends to the viewers, to you guys. With out you, there could be no White Coat Investor. In fact, the White Coat Investor isn’t me. It’s you. You’re the White Coat Traders. You might be who the weblog and specifically the podcast is set. And the entire level of it’s to serve you higher, to glue you with the nice guys within the trade, to provide you with an excellent shake on Wall Boulevard.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
That is what we are doing right here. That is what the White Coat Investor is all about. And I am thankful for you since the alternative I have needed to serve such a lot of of you has introduced richness in my lifestyles in additional techniques than one, each actually and metaphorically it has dramatically enriched my lifestyles so as to serve you right here on the White Coat Investor.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
I am hoping you’ve got an out of this world Thanksgiving. Whether or not or now not you trust the politics of Thanksgiving, I am hoping you’ll take an afternoon this 12 months to be thankful for what you’ve got and let that convey happiness into your lifestyles.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Our sponsor for this episode has been PearsonRavitz, incapacity and lifestyles insurance coverage advisors based via and for physicians. They’re a White Coat Investor counseled company that grew out of 1 MD’s enjoy with a career-changing on-the-job harm.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
These days, PearsonRavitz serves the scientific group in all 50 states. They allow you to as a health care provider safeguard your Most worthy asset, your time so you’ll be able to offer protection to crucial folks for your lifestyles, your circle of relatives. PearsonRavitz makes human connections ahead of they make quotes. Cross to www.pearsonravitz.com/wci nowadays to time table your session with a PearsonRavitz guide.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
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Dr. Jim Dahle:
Thank you for the ones of you leaving us five-star critiques and telling your mates in regards to the podcast. The ones critiques in fact lend a hand us unfold this message of economic literacy throughout physicians and different high-income pros. On this case, PAs.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Our most up-to-date assessment from k2utah mentioned, “Thanks in your contemporary episode that includes PAs. It’s great to listen to how other professions are discovering techniques to achieve cash. I’ve benefited out of your White Coat Investor content material for a few years, each at the site and the podcast.” Smartly, thank you for that sort five-star assessment.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
All proper. Glad Thanksgiving. As you concentrate to this, I am within the ER. Want me good fortune. And with a bit of luck, it is a nice weekend on the clinic and we will be able to lend a hand as many of us there as we are serving to right here at the podcast.

Dr. Jim Dahle:
Stay your head up, your shoulders again. You have got this and we will be able to lend a hand. See you subsequent time.

Disclaimer:
The hosts of the White Coat Investor podcast don’t seem to be approved accountants, lawyers, or monetary advisors. This podcast is in your leisure and data most effective. It will have to now not be thought to be skilled or customized monetary recommendation. You will have to seek the advice of the proper skilled for particular recommendation in terms of your state of affairs.



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